Some time ago potential purchasers of the (US) PowerFLARM brick were
offered the choice of the bundled display or the 57mm panel mount
display. No information on either seemed to be available from US
dealers so it was impossible to make an informed choice.

Butterfly has advised me that no English manual is available yet but
the German manual can be found here:

http://www.butterfly.aero/support/Handbuch_BD_DE_final.pdf

I could not make Babel translate it but my limited German seems to
have allowed me to answer my question on knob functionality. It
appears that the bundled display, like the 57mm display, has 2
independent rotary knobs one of which also acts as a push button
switch.

The 57mm display includes the alarm and there appears to be a menu
setting to adjust the volume.

Butterfly support advised me there is no brightness control for the
57mm display, it is always full bright. I assume the same is true of
the bundled display.

Anyone knowing how to make an internet translation, or willing to
make a human translation, please post.

Andy

Thanks for posting the link, Andy. Unfortunately, I can't understand
it either. I'll be at Mifflin next week, though, and I'll see if I can
persuade Karl Striedieck to take a look at it and tell me what it
says.

-John

On May 9, 8:02 am, Andy > wrote:
> Butterfly has advised me that no English manual is available yet but
> the German manual can be found here:
>
> http://www.butterfly.aero/support/Handbuch_BD_DE_final.pdf

Am 09.05.2011 14:02, Andy wrote:
> Some time ago potential purchasers of the (US) PowerFLARM brick were
> offered the choice of the bundled display or the 57mm panel mount
> display. No information on either seemed to be available from US
> dealers so it was impossible to make an informed choice.
>
> Butterfly has advised me that no English manual is available yet but
> the German manual can be found here:
>
> http://www.butterfly.aero/support/Handbuch_BD_DE_final.pdf
>
> I could not make Babel translate it but my limited German seems to
> have allowed me to answer my question on knob functionality. It
> appears that the bundled display, like the 57mm display, has 2
> independent rotary knobs one of which also acts as a push button
> switch.
>
> The 57mm display includes the alarm and there appears to be a menu
> setting to adjust the volume.
>
> Butterfly support advised me there is no brightness control for the
> 57mm display, it is always full bright. I assume the same is true of
> the bundled display.
>
> Anyone knowing how to make an internet translation, or willing to
> make a human translation, please post.
>
> Andy
>

Your assumption is basically correct. As a native German speaker I
could do a translation, but I don't have the time at the moment to to a
full translation of the manual. But I am willing to answer all
questions, both as a translator for the manual, but also as a 2-year
user of the butterfly display.

Re. the display: it is a transreflective display, i.e. it has no
internal light source, It gets the light from the ambient light, and the
brighter the sun shines on it the brighter the display gets. Trere has
been no situation where I could not read the display (as I do no night
flying).

The thinner of the two rotary knobs has a push button function, an
dependent of the context you are in, there might be different action for
"short" and "long" push of the button. It takes some time to get used to
the concept, but the basic functions are quite inutitive.

In normal flight mode, the outer rotary knob chooses the range
(0.5/1.0/6km/list view), the inner rotary knob moves the cursor from one
target to the next, a short button push shows details of the target
under the cursor. A long button push enters the menu.

If you have further question, please post them here, I will try to
answer them.

--
Peter Scholz
ASW24 JE

On May 10, 8:09*am, Peter Scholz > wrote:
> Am 09.05.2011 14:02, Andy wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Some time ago potential purchasers of the (US) PowerFLARM brick were
> > offered the choice of the bundled display or the 57mm panel mount
> > display. *No information on either seemed to be available from US
> > dealers so it was impossible to make an informed choice.
>
> > Butterfly has advised me that no English manual is available yet but
> > the German manual can be found here:
>
> >http://www.butterfly.aero/support/Handbuch_BD_DE_final.pdf
>
> > I could not make Babel translate it but my limited German seems to
> > have allowed me to answer my question on knob functionality. *It
> > appears that the bundled display, like the 57mm display, has 2
> > independent rotary knobs one of which also acts as a push button
> > switch.
>
> > The 57mm display includes the alarm and there appears to be a menu
> > setting to adjust the volume.
>
> > Butterfly support advised me there is no brightness control for the
> > 57mm display, it is always full bright. *I assume the same is true of
> > the bundled display.
>
> > Anyone knowing *how to make an internet translation, or willing to
> > make a human translation, please post.
>
> > Andy
>
> Your assumption is basically correct. As a native German speaker I
> could do a translation, but I don't have the time at the moment to to a
> full translation of the manual. But I am willing to answer all
> questions, both as a translator for the manual, but also as a 2-year
> user of the butterfly display.
>
> Re. the display: it is a transreflective display, i.e. it has no
> internal light source, It gets the light from the ambient light, and the
> brighter the sun shines on it the brighter the display gets. Trere has
> been no situation where I could not read the display (as I do no night
> flying).
>
> The thinner of the two rotary knobs has a push button function, an
> dependent of the context you are in, there might be different action for
> "short" and "long" push of the button. It takes some time to get used to
> the concept, but the basic functions are quite inutitive.
>
> In normal flight mode, the outer rotary knob chooses the range
> (0.5/1.0/6km/list view), the inner rotary knob moves the cursor from one
> target to the next, a short button push shows details of the target
> under the cursor. A long button push enters the menu.
>
> If you have further question, please post them here, I will try to
> answer them.
>
> --
> Peter Scholz
> ASW24 JE

I have one of these in my cockpit that I used while flying in the
Hungary last summer. It is really very cool and adds a lot to your
situational awareness. Other displays mostly just provide you the
warning information while this one will show the FLARM aircraft around
you. I liked it an will keep using this display even though I will
have my PowerFLARM sending data to the SN-10 and Oudie.

WE

On May 10, 6:09*am, Peter Scholz > wrote:
> Am 09.05.2011 14:02, Andy wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Some time ago potential purchasers of the (US) PowerFLARM brick were
> > offered the choice of the bundled display or the 57mm panel mount
> > display. *No information on either seemed to be available from US
> > dealers so it was impossible to make an informed choice.
>
> > Butterfly has advised me that no English manual is available yet but
> > the German manual can be found here:
>
> >http://www.butterfly.aero/support/Handbuch_BD_DE_final.pdf
>
> > I could not make Babel translate it but my limited German seems to
> > have allowed me to answer my question on knob functionality. *It
> > appears that the bundled display, like the 57mm display, has 2
> > independent rotary knobs one of which also acts as a push button
> > switch.
>
> > The 57mm display includes the alarm and there appears to be a menu
> > setting to adjust the volume.
>
> > Butterfly support advised me there is no brightness control for the
> > 57mm display, it is always full bright. *I assume the same is true of
> > the bundled display.
>
> > Anyone knowing *how to make an internet translation, or willing to
> > make a human translation, please post.
>
> > Andy
>
> Your assumption is basically correct. As a native German speaker I
> could do a translation, but I don't have the time at the moment to to a
> full translation of the manual. But I am willing to answer all
> questions, both as a translator for the manual, but also as a 2-year
> user of the butterfly display.
>
> Re. the display: it is a transreflective display, i.e. it has no
> internal light source, It gets the light from the ambient light, and the
> brighter the sun shines on it the brighter the display gets. Trere has
> been no situation where I could not read the display (as I do no night
> flying).
>
> The thinner of the two rotary knobs has a push button function, an
> dependent of the context you are in, there might be different action for
> "short" and "long" push of the button. It takes some time to get used to
> the concept, but the basic functions are quite inutitive.
>
> In normal flight mode, the outer rotary knob chooses the range
> (0.5/1.0/6km/list view), the inner rotary knob moves the cursor from one
> target to the next, a short button push shows details of the target
> under the cursor. A long button push enters the menu.
>
> If you have further question, please post them here, I will try to
> answer them.
>
> --
> Peter Scholz
> ASW24 JE

Thanks Peter.

I now realize that I reached some invalid conclusions. The document
does not include a description of the PowerFLARM bundled display, only
the currently available 57mm and rectangular displays.

So, until there is documentation available for the bundled display, it
won't be possible to make an informed choice. Maybe one day it will
be possible to have a "hands on" demonstration of the brick with both
displays.

Andy